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take a listen. >> you want the answer to solving the fiscal cliff? we put an offer on the table. the president now has to engage. i think the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give you your answer where we're going. this is an opportunity for this country to lead. this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> brian, also we saw the president talking to ceos at a business roundtable event earlier today. the president really reaching out to that group. he worked the room, shaking hands of almost everybody in that room. clearly the ceos and the business community are the linchpin to a deal here. both sides, democrats an republicans, reaching out for their support. take a listen to the president just a little while ago. >> i am passionately rooting for your success, because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and medium sized businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then folks get jobs, consumers get confidence, and we're going to be able to com
take a listen. >> you want the answer to solving the fiscal cliff? we put an offer on the table. the president now has to engage. i think the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give you your answer where we're going. this is an opportunity for this country to lead. this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> brian, also we saw the president talking to ceos at a business roundtable event earlier today. the president really...
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. >>> john boehner said this morning it was a week that was wasted in the fiscal cliff discussions, but the market sure isn't trading that way. how come? >> good question. with us today is david darst. what do you reckon, david? how come? >> i think you got the four cs. you got consumer confidence. you've got the china situation looking a little better. you've got consumer credit looking better, mandy. finally, take liberty with that fourth c, house prices. they're hanging in there. that's been one thing. on the other hand, you have a deceleration going on this quarter, mandy. our best guess is it's going to come in at about 0.8%. first quarter, 0.9%. >> what are you talking about, gdp? >> on gdp. the second quarter, 1.2%. you're seeing a deceleration here. this is basically e quill librium. it's not just the fiscal cliff, mandy, that's causing the market to do this seesaw action. >> we highlighted yesterday how the german and french markets hit 52-week highs yesterday. we're not close to that. we hit our highs in september and haven't looked back. are we being held back by the fiscal c
. >>> john boehner said this morning it was a week that was wasted in the fiscal cliff discussions, but the market sure isn't trading that way. how come? >> good question. with us today is david darst. what do you reckon, david? how come? >> i think you got the four cs. you got consumer confidence. you've got the china situation looking a little better. you've got consumer credit looking better, mandy. finally, take liberty with that fourth c, house prices. they're hanging...
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cliff. all these complaints about government spending too much, so let's just take it for what it's worth, go over the cliff and cut out that government spending, and i find it interesting that a lot of the same people that want the government to cut back on spending kind of don't want it because of the markets, so you can't really have your cake and eat it, too. if we do go over the cliff there will be pullback in the market. >> what's the strategy though? what's the strategy? let's put aside speculation of going over or not going over. what's the strategy going into year end? where do you want exposure in terms of equities? >> definitely want to be long. i certainly wouldn't want to go short because you don't want to go into this uncertainty making decisions on something you don't know is going to happen. you just don't know what the taxes are or what's going to come about, so i really wouldn't make my decisions based on an unknown. i would pick steady solid names and stick with them and g
cliff. all these complaints about government spending too much, so let's just take it for what it's worth, go over the cliff and cut out that government spending, and i find it interesting that a lot of the same people that want the government to cut back on spending kind of don't want it because of the markets, so you can't really have your cake and eat it, too. if we do go over the cliff there will be pullback in the market. >> what's the strategy though? what's the strategy? let's put...
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goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> italian shares are down nearly 3% this morning. for the most part, it is bank stocks leading the way down. we're now down about 2.76% on the ftse mib. bank stocks have been hit particularly hard this morning. earlier, we saw shares down 5.6%. we're seeing the same thing, whether it's bmps hitting session lows down nearly 6% comes amid concerns about leadership and economic reform in italy following mario monte's announcement that he'll resign once the budget has been passed. this move is likely to bring the country forward to elections next year. the italian prime minister has offered no clue as to whether or not he will run and it comes after sylvia berlusconi declared over the weekend he would throw his hat in the ring for the job of premier. carolyn ross is in italy following the details there. can you walk us through the time frame here? when are we expected monte to step down? what happens next? >> good morning to you, kelly. here is the time frame for you. over the next few weeks, we're expecting the budget stability law to b
goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> italian shares are down nearly 3% this morning. for the most part, it is bank stocks leading the way down. we're now down about 2.76% on the ftse mib. bank stocks have been hit particularly hard this morning. earlier, we saw shares down 5.6%. we're seeing the same thing, whether it's bmps hitting session lows down nearly 6% comes amid concerns about leadership and economic reform in italy following mario monte's announcement that he'll resign once the...
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we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long weekend. that's kind of insane. eamon javers joins us. >> reporter: the president began his day this morning before an audience of business leaders and he continued his campaign of persuasion amongst some of the nation's top ceos. >> i am passionately rooting for your success. because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and medium sized businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then folks get jobs, consumers get confidence, and we're going to be able to compete around the world. >> and then larry, later in the afternoon, our steve leishman sat down with treasury secretary tim geithner. geithner in that interview late in the afternoon made it clear that this is brinksmanship of the highest order. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the a
we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long weekend. that's kind of insane. eamon javers joins us. >> reporter: the president began his day this morning before an audience of business leaders and he continued his campaign of persuasion amongst some of the nation's top ceos. >> i am passionately rooting for your success. because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and...
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. >>> and americans want a deal on the fiscal cliff now. john harwood will be along with those results. >>> and the mysterious john mcafee is back on u.s. soil after being on the run
. >>> and americans want a deal on the fiscal cliff now. john harwood will be along with those results. >>> and the mysterious john mcafee is back on u.s. soil after being on the run
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. >> with both sides in washington publicly digging in their heels, how much will the fiscal cliff impact the credit markets? ben garber joins us for more. ben, good morning. clearly we're focused on the down side risk from the budget standoff and then there's beyond that. let's talk about the short term at the moment. what impact is that having? >> i think people have to be defensive in the short term. there will be a lot of rancor on both sides. so within the next month or so, as the fiscal cliff debate developments, there is limited up side for interest rates and it's hard to see stocks moving much higher. >> so let's suppose we get an agreement. that should increase confidence. does that mean the economy performs better next year than we expect and then what's the feed through from that? >> yeah, i think while we're now focused on a lot of the down side risks not only from the fiscal cliff but obviously also from the eurozone crisis, we may have overlooked some of these up side potential for next year. so if we get a favorable resolution for the fiscal cliff, i think we can see intere
. >> with both sides in washington publicly digging in their heels, how much will the fiscal cliff impact the credit markets? ben garber joins us for more. ben, good morning. clearly we're focused on the down side risk from the budget standoff and then there's beyond that. let's talk about the short term at the moment. what impact is that having? >> i think people have to be defensive in the short term. there will be a lot of rancor on both sides. so within the next month or so, as...
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the fiscal cliff, top of mind for wall street this morning. adp out with the monthly look of private sector employment at 8:15 eastern time. economists think this report will show that the united states added 125,000 private sector jobs in november. president obama's going to be speaking to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnerny says the business leaders want a balanced solution to short and long-term deficit issues. >>> and facebook is joining the nasdaq 100 index. it will be joining the index next wednesday and replaces tech firm emphasis who is moving to the new york stock exchange. >>> our guest host here to take on the financial cliff as well as false assumptions investors may be making about what the markets will do come january. joining us is dan greenhouse and chris walen, senior managing director. just looking through some of your comments, dan, you don't think we should go over, obviously. >> well, we were -- chris and i were joking in the green room. a lot of the policies in the c
the fiscal cliff, top of mind for wall street this morning. adp out with the monthly look of private sector employment at 8:15 eastern time. economists think this report will show that the united states added 125,000 private sector jobs in november. president obama's going to be speaking to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnerny says the business leaders want a balanced solution to short and long-term deficit issues. >>> and facebook...
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afternoon when there was progress on the fiscal cliff. if you didn't get through the mayan -- >> and toys "r" us would then stay open all night. >> no one really thinks something's going to happen, do they, on the 21st? >> i don't know. sfl i don't know. there might be viewers out there. >> i think we're going to make it i want to hear it from you. >> so we can fall off the cliff. >> exactly. >> the fed's linking interest rates to unemployment rates are going to stay where they are right now which is close to zero until at the very least the jobless rate falls to 6.5%. and as expected the central bank ramps up its asset purchases. sooner or later this is going to be real money. adding $45 billion to the 40 billion it's already spending per month purchasing securities. it is said to increase the balance sheet by a trillion dollars over the next year. and you can,know, if it goes all the way to when they think it will go to get to 6.5. just add a trillion dollars a year. joining us now neel kashkari head of global inquiries at pimco. the fi
afternoon when there was progress on the fiscal cliff. if you didn't get through the mayan -- >> and toys "r" us would then stay open all night. >> no one really thinks something's going to happen, do they, on the 21st? >> i don't know. sfl i don't know. there might be viewers out there. >> i think we're going to make it i want to hear it from you. >> so we can fall off the cliff. >> exactly. >> the fed's linking interest rates to unemployment...
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the fiscal cliff still looming. new survey finds more than half of leading investment professionals expect a deal, though, before year end. but it's their opinions on what happens if a compromise isn't reached that is troubling. and sec warning to netflix raising questions about how
the fiscal cliff still looming. new survey finds more than half of leading investment professionals expect a deal, though, before year end. but it's their opinions on what happens if a compromise isn't reached that is troubling. and sec warning to netflix raising questions about how
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we've been talking all morning about the fiscal cliff and investing. i want to asking, the last time you were on the show, you were out promoting governor romney for president. you said, frankly, that if he didn't win, it might change things, might change the world of investing. president obama won. your guy lost. >> yeah. >> has it changed how you're seeing the world? >> we're so long term focused, the stuff we fund is 7-10 years to see if it will work as a business. it doesn't change anything we do at the moment. i think it changes the political situation a lot and the budget situation a lot. >> in the venture world, does this issue matter? we talk about it all the time for big businesses that employ a lot of people, it matters. in your world does it matter? >> matters less at the moment but a lot in the long run. questions we always worry about in the valley these days, what's the level of regulation? what are the industries we can regulate and industries we can fund innovators to cause disruptive change. the thing i'm worried about right now is pre
we've been talking all morning about the fiscal cliff and investing. i want to asking, the last time you were on the show, you were out promoting governor romney for president. you said, frankly, that if he didn't win, it might change things, might change the world of investing. president obama won. your guy lost. >> yeah. >> has it changed how you're seeing the world? >> we're so long term focused, the stuff we fund is 7-10 years to see if it will work as a business. it...
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for a vacation, don't count on it, without getting some sort of fiscal cliff deal together. ayman, you've been tweeting this morning already about some characterizations about the discussions between the speaker and the president in recent days. >> that's right. a republican source told nbc news that the conversation that the president and speaker had on the phone yesterday, lasted for only 15 minutes, and they described it as, quote, tense, unquote. and that may have something to do with the fact that the president lowered his request in his latest proposal to the house republicans from $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues to $1.4 trillion. clearly as you can see here, the republicans don't think that's enough. they want the president to come out publicly now with some specific spending cuts. now, there's some question whether or not behind the scenes the president has offered significant spending cuts. the president says yes, the house republicans say no. they say the democrats have taken so much off the table that all that's left there is the varnish. there's clearly a gloom
for a vacation, don't count on it, without getting some sort of fiscal cliff deal together. ayman, you've been tweeting this morning already about some characterizations about the discussions between the speaker and the president in recent days. >> that's right. a republican source told nbc news that the conversation that the president and speaker had on the phone yesterday, lasted for only 15 minutes, and they described it as, quote, tense, unquote. and that may have something to do with...
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fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be going nowhere. today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be going nowhere. today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
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i wish i could be more optimistic on the fiscal cliff. a gloomy commentary this morning. expectations are getting narrow. grand bargains are out and the idea of maybe the fallback position is pass a simple tax bill like the one the senate had. the simple bill here. you have tax cuts for middle class but not for people over 250,000. you have dividends and capital gains going to 23.8%. that's the senate bill. and that's it. you leave out estate tax and leave out payroll tax cut and unemployment extension and you leave that out. no delay in the sequestration. this is pretty thin gruel. this is what's tossed about and talked about today overall. is that enough to satisfy the markets? remember, the two requirements, got to be before the end of the year and got to be substantive. before the end of the year but that doesn't sound substantive to me. i think there will be disappointments if that's all we get. did you see china? remember the bidder complaints two weeks ago. no efforts from chinese leadership to talk about the economy next year. now it's happening. we have another b
i wish i could be more optimistic on the fiscal cliff. a gloomy commentary this morning. expectations are getting narrow. grand bargains are out and the idea of maybe the fallback position is pass a simple tax bill like the one the senate had. the simple bill here. you have tax cuts for middle class but not for people over 250,000. you have dividends and capital gains going to 23.8%. that's the senate bill. and that's it. you leave out estate tax and leave out payroll tax cut and unemployment...
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. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. also on the radar this morning, after president obama and house speaker john boehner both were tight-lipped how the negotiations went. the co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, he was asked about the chances of striking a deal to avoid the cliff. >> it's probably more like a 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible 35% chance that we'll still go over the cliff and have pure chaos. but i think the chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> be sure to tune in tomorrow for the fiscal cliff coverage live from washington. mission critical, rise above d.c., all day long. becky quick, jim cramer, maria bartiromo holding their feet to the fire about where they stand on the fiscal cliff and how they'll do their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal. now, there are some bowles comments. 40%, yeah, but the odds are much be
. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. also on the radar this morning, after president obama and house speaker john boehner both were tight-lipped how the negotiations went. the co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, he was asked about the chances of striking a deal to avoid the cliff. >> it's probably more like a 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible...
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[s >>> good morning. still trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama says he expects a deal before the year is out. and both sides traded offers yesterday. the markets are watching every move. >>> today is decision day for the fed. central bank announced another round of bond buying. we look ahead to the news conference with ben bernanke. >>> and michigan's governor makes history, turning a one-time union powerhouse
[s >>> good morning. still trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama says he expects a deal before the year is out. and both sides traded offers yesterday. the markets are watching every move. >>> today is decision day for the fed. central bank announced another round of bond buying. we look ahead to the news conference with ben bernanke. >>> and michigan's governor makes history, turning a one-time union powerhouse
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"ben's birthday wish is for a fiscal cliff parachute." >> for everyone. >> a.j. tweets, "a light bulb for congress and the white house." >> how many does it take to screw it in? >> toner cartridges. >> to keep printing. >> yes, the money. >>> let's check on solar city, trading sharply higher. we're at $10.93. price ultimately at $8. a strong opening after they lowered the price below the indicative range. so that will please a lot of people who were worried about that. what are we looking for on "fast money"? >> we'll have a huge discussion on real estate and the fiscal cliff. we've got dolly lynns of prudential and she'll tell us about all the sales happening right now. it's a crush of sales, in fact, as we approach that looming fiscal cliff. >> which end of the market? the top end of the market? >> the highest end of the market. we'll have a little real estate porn sprinkled in there
"ben's birthday wish is for a fiscal cliff parachute." >> for everyone. >> a.j. tweets, "a light bulb for congress and the white house." >> how many does it take to screw it in? >> toner cartridges. >> to keep printing. >> yes, the money. >>> let's check on solar city, trading sharply higher. we're at $10.93. price ultimately at $8. a strong opening after they lowered the price below the indicative range. so that will please a lot...
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. >> industrials to the fiscal cliff. >> exactly. a quick break now. the morning's top stories when we return. that's what we'll have. >> plus the man of the hour, erskine bowles. find out whether he thinks washington can avert economic disaster. the courage to rise above when skwaux box returns. try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we haven't had a reported case in 12 years. aids is strong. aids is strong. but we are stronger. and aids... ♪ aids is going to lose. aids is going to lose. ♪ made a retirement plan, they considered all her assets, even those held elsewhere, giving her the
. >> industrials to the fiscal cliff. >> exactly. a quick break now. the morning's top stories when we return. that's what we'll have. >> plus the man of the hour, erskine bowles. find out whether he thinks washington can avert economic disaster. the courage to rise above when skwaux box returns. try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our...
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i'm thinking, after listening this morning, how i learned to stop worrying and love the fiscal cliff. is that where we are right now? >> you know, jim, this shouldn't be that hard. the idea that we've got to get a $4 trillio over ten years, with a mix of revenue increases, spending cuts. you know, when you look at the size of our economy, when you're looking at what's asked of people all across europe, uk, all in emerging nations, this is so small on a relative basis, that it's almost unamerican we're not going to be able to step up and get it done. you know, i'm optimistic that we're going to be able to avoid the fiscal cliff. we're not going to go over that, we're not going to see sequester, the challenge is going to be, is the deal going to be big enough, comprehensive enough that we take that minimum of $4 trillion off this $16 trillion debt over the next ten years. >> we're going to intervene, no matter what, in the trends of american business, meaning as soon as this one is over, we'll have a debt ceiling. because we can't get investment going in this country. that's why people
i'm thinking, after listening this morning, how i learned to stop worrying and love the fiscal cliff. is that where we are right now? >> you know, jim, this shouldn't be that hard. the idea that we've got to get a $4 trillio over ten years, with a mix of revenue increases, spending cuts. you know, when you look at the size of our economy, when you're looking at what's asked of people all across europe, uk, all in emerging nations, this is so small on a relative basis, that it's almost...